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		<title>Comment on Paulitics by cyber5</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. There&#039;s a message in there. Its as clear as the rest of the political messages out there.

I&#039;d drive a Prius IN Africa, except its hard to find charging stations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. There&#8217;s a message in there. Its as clear as the rest of the political messages out there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d drive a Prius IN Africa, except its hard to find charging stations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulitics by Rob Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say that the Sweetwater County GOP did a wonderful job in my mind. I have only heard from other people about what took place in other counties. Most had a good experience as well. 

I really think there is a void in comunication on maybe both ends. Each side looking at the other with pre-conceived notions about what the agenda of each group is. This is not at all healthy for the party as a whole. For the new comers into the party they need to understand they are newbies and that they need to earn the respect of others. I get that. I want to do that. 

Lets get together and chat over coffee. 

Take care,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say that the Sweetwater County GOP did a wonderful job in my mind. I have only heard from other people about what took place in other counties. Most had a good experience as well. </p>
<p>I really think there is a void in comunication on maybe both ends. Each side looking at the other with pre-conceived notions about what the agenda of each group is. This is not at all healthy for the party as a whole. For the new comers into the party they need to understand they are newbies and that they need to earn the respect of others. I get that. I want to do that. </p>
<p>Lets get together and chat over coffee. </p>
<p>Take care,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulitics by Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was there a message buried in that somewhere? I read it twice, and I&#039;m pretty sure what you&#039;re saying is that you want to drive a race car to the circus and have pan seared steak for dinner. Then again, it could just mean that you want to drive a Prius to Africa and roll around in the hay with a greased up tiger that&#039;s wearing a kilt. I couldn&#039;t be sure either way. :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there a message buried in that somewhere? I read it twice, and I&#8217;m pretty sure what you&#8217;re saying is that you want to drive a race car to the circus and have pan seared steak for dinner. Then again, it could just mean that you want to drive a Prius to Africa and roll around in the hay with a greased up tiger that&#8217;s wearing a kilt. I couldn&#8217;t be sure either way. <img src='http://wisdomworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulitics by Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to address something that you asked in your comment:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Why doesn’t the party embrace these new people? Take them and show them how things work? Guide them and grow them within the party?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is a discussion we had at our last State Central Committee meeting. It was actually Tammy that brought it up and said that it was extremely important that we embrace the Ron Paul supporters and invite them into the Republican Party. She was very clear that she believed that they were the future of our country, and that we should welcome them, and mentor them as best we can. The whole of the Central Committee agreed. Then came the caucuses and conventions. You probably didn&#039;t see it, but you wouldn&#039;t believe how rude the members of the executive committee were treated by a lot of the Ron Paul supporters from the beginning. When I was registering people at the caucuses and straw poll, I got the honor of listening to several comments and questions about what &quot;you people&quot; were going to do to fix the vote and screw Ron Paul. I got to listen to a few discuss how they were just waiting for the Constitution Party to get formed so they could get jump ship from the GOP. Why should us members who have &quot;put in our time&quot; give a rats ass for them? I&#039;m committed to using the Republican Party as a vehicle to make the country better, not making it a suitable port of call for someone who is party hopping. (By the way, I find it hilarious that I&#039;m part of &quot;the establishment&quot; now. Do you know how many knock-down drag-out fights I&#039;ve had during State Central Committee meetings?)

What the new people who walked into that room with a chip on their shoulder did&#039;t understand is that the straw poll, which wasn&#039;t required and had never been done before in Wyoming, was held specifically for the purpose of getting new people -- THEM -- involved in the process. As for Crook county, the release of the straw poll results weren&#039;t delayed so that the results could be altered. The hope was to wait until all the counties were in so they could be released all at once so we could get the maximum amount of press coverage. The fact that the caucuses were held over several days made that impossible. The moment Tammy realized that the delay would cause even the slightest perception of impropriety she made the executive decision to release all results immediately. When the guidelines for the straw poll were discussed and decided on in the Central Committee, that possibility never even came up, but once the process started, the first reaction we got from the &quot;Revolution&quot; was that we were somehow trying to screw them over. The result of the vitriol that came from the Ron Paul supporters around the state is simply that none of the people who volunteered to make the straw poll happen will never do it again. There probably won&#039;t be another WYGOP straw poll. The negativity just isn&#039;t worth it. (Another &quot;by the way. It was Novotny&#039;s hard work that made the straw poll possible at all. Without him, Ron Paul wouldn&#039;t have gotten the publicity from it that he did.)

Which brings to mind: Every facet of the partisan political process from the State Party on down is done by volunteers, not professional politicians. Tammy has literally been running the State Party out of the trunk of her car using her own cell phone for the last year. She doesn&#039;t do it for any personal gain. She does it because she believes in the Republican Party. Yes, she screwed up at the State Convention, but she also was the driving force behind making the convention possible at all. It is 100% because of people like her that ANY of us get ANY say at all in the partisan process. And it IS a political process. People pick sides. Of course Novotny is pooling support to do something about the Ron Paul people. He&#039;s a Romney supporter and works on the Romney campaign, and Ron Paul is his competition. I expect nothing less. Politics is battle. It gets heated. You have to strategize and figure out a way to win, whether it be in the hallway, on the floor of the convention, or behind a locked door. But what a lot of people don&#039;t get to see is that at all levels of politics, when the fighting is over, most of us set it aside and can relate pretty OK at a personal level. We don&#039;t have to be best friends, but we don&#039;t all have to hate each other either. A lot of the Ron Paul supporters I&#039;ve had to deal with over the last few months don&#039;t seem to understand that. They act like we should be mortal enemies from the moment we meet. 

Personally, I believe that the best way to change the country for the better is to start by changing the Republican Party, and I believe the only way to change the Republican Party is from the inside. That&#039;s why I got involved. The reality though is that you can&#039;t get inside by sitting on the outskirts throwing stones. You can&#039;t constantly attack the &quot;established&quot; members of the party and then cry when they don&#039;t welcome you with open arms. We&#039;re only human. If you start the conversation by immediately trying to put us on the defensive, guess what? We&#039;re going to get defensive and fight back. It&#039;s purely reflexive human nature.

I hope you noticed that I, in no way, anywhere in my essay, attacked Ron Paul or called him a kook. I have nothing but respect for him. However, the first test of a presidential candidate is how he runs his campaign. It is widely accepted -- even if it isn&#039;t necessarily true -- that if you can&#039;t run a successful campaign, you can&#039;t run a country. Gains from 2008 aside, Dr. Paul has failed at running a campaign. Consistent 10% support is simply not a success. You only have to look at comments from his supporters on the forums to see that the centralized planning is fractured and in a lot of cases non-existent. What&#039;s more, the size of the cult-like following that he has inspired is admirable, but I also think it has done more to harm his chances at capturing the average Republican voter and leading the country to real positive change than to help his chances. It&#039;s too bad, because I believe he has a lot to offer, but I truly believe that it is a very obnoxious group of his own followers that marginalizes him and prevents average voters from giving him a second look.

Finally, even if I take your statement at face value that you haven&#039;t decided how you are going to vote at the National Convention, then that leaves around 11 more of the alternates that were elected, who also ran as &quot;Undeclared,&quot; whose intentions are suspect. Never mind the fact that the Ron Paul campaigners are, despite your words to the contrary, declaring YOUR alternate seat, as well as the rest of the alternate seats, as having been &quot;taken&quot; for Ron Paul. I don&#039;t have a problem with &quot;undeclared.&quot; If I had run for a National Delegate position at the County Convention, I would have run undeclared because at that time I still had no idea who I would vote for. But I&#039;ve read the Ron Paul forums and I know the strategy. And I know a lot of the people who were running. They have declared, loudly, who they support, as you have. I support the Ron Paul campaign&#039;s right to have a preferred slate, and I honestly don&#039;t have a problem with the fact that it was agreed on behind a locked door guarded by the bodyguard who seems to get bigger every time he is referenced on the Daily Paul. I just think that it was disingenuous for your group to try to hide your slate behind &quot;undeclared&quot; in front of the convention, while demonizing the the Romney campaign for offering a slate to their supporters out in the open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to address something that you asked in your comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>Why doesn’t the party embrace these new people? Take them and show them how things work? Guide them and grow them within the party?</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a discussion we had at our last State Central Committee meeting. It was actually Tammy that brought it up and said that it was extremely important that we embrace the Ron Paul supporters and invite them into the Republican Party. She was very clear that she believed that they were the future of our country, and that we should welcome them, and mentor them as best we can. The whole of the Central Committee agreed. Then came the caucuses and conventions. You probably didn&#8217;t see it, but you wouldn&#8217;t believe how rude the members of the executive committee were treated by a lot of the Ron Paul supporters from the beginning. When I was registering people at the caucuses and straw poll, I got the honor of listening to several comments and questions about what &#8220;you people&#8221; were going to do to fix the vote and screw Ron Paul. I got to listen to a few discuss how they were just waiting for the Constitution Party to get formed so they could get jump ship from the GOP. Why should us members who have &#8220;put in our time&#8221; give a rats ass for them? I&#8217;m committed to using the Republican Party as a vehicle to make the country better, not making it a suitable port of call for someone who is party hopping. (By the way, I find it hilarious that I&#8217;m part of &#8220;the establishment&#8221; now. Do you know how many knock-down drag-out fights I&#8217;ve had during State Central Committee meetings?)</p>
<p>What the new people who walked into that room with a chip on their shoulder did&#8217;t understand is that the straw poll, which wasn&#8217;t required and had never been done before in Wyoming, was held specifically for the purpose of getting new people &#8212; THEM &#8212; involved in the process. As for Crook county, the release of the straw poll results weren&#8217;t delayed so that the results could be altered. The hope was to wait until all the counties were in so they could be released all at once so we could get the maximum amount of press coverage. The fact that the caucuses were held over several days made that impossible. The moment Tammy realized that the delay would cause even the slightest perception of impropriety she made the executive decision to release all results immediately. When the guidelines for the straw poll were discussed and decided on in the Central Committee, that possibility never even came up, but once the process started, the first reaction we got from the &#8220;Revolution&#8221; was that we were somehow trying to screw them over. The result of the vitriol that came from the Ron Paul supporters around the state is simply that none of the people who volunteered to make the straw poll happen will never do it again. There probably won&#8217;t be another WYGOP straw poll. The negativity just isn&#8217;t worth it. (Another &#8220;by the way. It was Novotny&#8217;s hard work that made the straw poll possible at all. Without him, Ron Paul wouldn&#8217;t have gotten the publicity from it that he did.)</p>
<p>Which brings to mind: Every facet of the partisan political process from the State Party on down is done by volunteers, not professional politicians. Tammy has literally been running the State Party out of the trunk of her car using her own cell phone for the last year. She doesn&#8217;t do it for any personal gain. She does it because she believes in the Republican Party. Yes, she screwed up at the State Convention, but she also was the driving force behind making the convention possible at all. It is 100% because of people like her that ANY of us get ANY say at all in the partisan process. And it IS a political process. People pick sides. Of course Novotny is pooling support to do something about the Ron Paul people. He&#8217;s a Romney supporter and works on the Romney campaign, and Ron Paul is his competition. I expect nothing less. Politics is battle. It gets heated. You have to strategize and figure out a way to win, whether it be in the hallway, on the floor of the convention, or behind a locked door. But what a lot of people don&#8217;t get to see is that at all levels of politics, when the fighting is over, most of us set it aside and can relate pretty OK at a personal level. We don&#8217;t have to be best friends, but we don&#8217;t all have to hate each other either. A lot of the Ron Paul supporters I&#8217;ve had to deal with over the last few months don&#8217;t seem to understand that. They act like we should be mortal enemies from the moment we meet. </p>
<p>Personally, I believe that the best way to change the country for the better is to start by changing the Republican Party, and I believe the only way to change the Republican Party is from the inside. That&#8217;s why I got involved. The reality though is that you can&#8217;t get inside by sitting on the outskirts throwing stones. You can&#8217;t constantly attack the &#8220;established&#8221; members of the party and then cry when they don&#8217;t welcome you with open arms. We&#8217;re only human. If you start the conversation by immediately trying to put us on the defensive, guess what? We&#8217;re going to get defensive and fight back. It&#8217;s purely reflexive human nature.</p>
<p>I hope you noticed that I, in no way, anywhere in my essay, attacked Ron Paul or called him a kook. I have nothing but respect for him. However, the first test of a presidential candidate is how he runs his campaign. It is widely accepted &#8212; even if it isn&#8217;t necessarily true &#8212; that if you can&#8217;t run a successful campaign, you can&#8217;t run a country. Gains from 2008 aside, Dr. Paul has failed at running a campaign. Consistent 10% support is simply not a success. You only have to look at comments from his supporters on the forums to see that the centralized planning is fractured and in a lot of cases non-existent. What&#8217;s more, the size of the cult-like following that he has inspired is admirable, but I also think it has done more to harm his chances at capturing the average Republican voter and leading the country to real positive change than to help his chances. It&#8217;s too bad, because I believe he has a lot to offer, but I truly believe that it is a very obnoxious group of his own followers that marginalizes him and prevents average voters from giving him a second look.</p>
<p>Finally, even if I take your statement at face value that you haven&#8217;t decided how you are going to vote at the National Convention, then that leaves around 11 more of the alternates that were elected, who also ran as &#8220;Undeclared,&#8221; whose intentions are suspect. Never mind the fact that the Ron Paul campaigners are, despite your words to the contrary, declaring YOUR alternate seat, as well as the rest of the alternate seats, as having been &#8220;taken&#8221; for Ron Paul. I don&#8217;t have a problem with &#8220;undeclared.&#8221; If I had run for a National Delegate position at the County Convention, I would have run undeclared because at that time I still had no idea who I would vote for. But I&#8217;ve read the Ron Paul forums and I know the strategy. And I know a lot of the people who were running. They have declared, loudly, who they support, as you have. I support the Ron Paul campaign&#8217;s right to have a preferred slate, and I honestly don&#8217;t have a problem with the fact that it was agreed on behind a locked door guarded by the bodyguard who seems to get bigger every time he is referenced on the Daily Paul. I just think that it was disingenuous for your group to try to hide your slate behind &#8220;undeclared&#8221; in front of the convention, while demonizing the the Romney campaign for offering a slate to their supporters out in the open.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulitics by cyber5</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyber5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t knock the fanatics, radicals and liars. All those groups are informed and speaking out. Whether they are misinformed or mis-speaking, is debatable - but at least they aren&#039;t being spoonfed the lamestream rhetoric and continuing down the slaughterhouse chute totally unaware. They are the ones that are up front, bleating the warnings. 

Unfortunately, the machine (much like a slaughterhouse) is very efficient and if either gets off-kilter you can generally fix the problem with either a hammer or a bit of grease. 

The problem with the political machine is that it is now archaic technology. If it were a computer there&#039;d still be two camps of machines to replace it - shiny, sleek-looking ones that offer frivolities, and ugly boxy, stuffy ones that offer more of the same, with some new bells and whistles up front. Sure, there may be a hybrid machine finely tuned, and parts specced for maximum performance - but the general public doesn&#039;t buy those. Those are left to the radicals and fanatics to do with as they see fit in their own little corners. 

Often those corners are dark, dismal places...sometimes not. Either way, they are still corners. They aren&#039;t center-ring. The majority of people want to see lions and tigers and pretty acrobats center ring. Of course, lots of those people do wander off to the sideshow for a moment, check it out briefly and then head to the egress just as the ringmaster wants and needs them to.

There ya go, Wisdom - a handful of metaphors and not a single flamethrower ignited. Perhaps it was enough of a spark to ignite an idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t knock the fanatics, radicals and liars. All those groups are informed and speaking out. Whether they are misinformed or mis-speaking, is debatable &#8211; but at least they aren&#8217;t being spoonfed the lamestream rhetoric and continuing down the slaughterhouse chute totally unaware. They are the ones that are up front, bleating the warnings. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the machine (much like a slaughterhouse) is very efficient and if either gets off-kilter you can generally fix the problem with either a hammer or a bit of grease. </p>
<p>The problem with the political machine is that it is now archaic technology. If it were a computer there&#8217;d still be two camps of machines to replace it &#8211; shiny, sleek-looking ones that offer frivolities, and ugly boxy, stuffy ones that offer more of the same, with some new bells and whistles up front. Sure, there may be a hybrid machine finely tuned, and parts specced for maximum performance &#8211; but the general public doesn&#8217;t buy those. Those are left to the radicals and fanatics to do with as they see fit in their own little corners. </p>
<p>Often those corners are dark, dismal places&#8230;sometimes not. Either way, they are still corners. They aren&#8217;t center-ring. The majority of people want to see lions and tigers and pretty acrobats center ring. Of course, lots of those people do wander off to the sideshow for a moment, check it out briefly and then head to the egress just as the ringmaster wants and needs them to.</p>
<p>There ya go, Wisdom &#8211; a handful of metaphors and not a single flamethrower ignited. Perhaps it was enough of a spark to ignite an idea.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paulitics by Rob Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with some of what you said above. I was embarrassed that people would not stand up and support the elected officials as they came to speak at our convention. In my mind there really is no excuse for that. I also agree that around the country when you see RP supporters they are sometimes loud and maybe a little rude. Keep in mind that this is the first go around for many of these people participating in an election at this level. I understand the people established within the party and those that have &quot;put in their time&quot;  feel they deserve certain things to come to them. But we are also dealing with a political environment in this country that is only getting worse. The majority of Americans are disgusted with the way this country is being run and see that it is the extremes of both parties that are in control with nothing getting done. Nothing ever improving. All we see is our country slowly swirling around the toilet bowl as it dies a slow death. It really doesn&#039;t matter who is elected nothing ever changes. 
Why doesn’t the party embrace these new people? Take them and show them how things work? Guide them and grow them within the party? Most of these individuals are young and very new to the political process. Like it or not, they are the future of the Republican party. Instead they are just dismissed as radical nimrods without a clue. Gee, I wonder why some would rather not declare who they support? If I talk to anyone in the Republican Party there is agreement on, probably 90% of what is talked about. Once I mention Ron Paul’s name I’m tuned out and looked upon as an uneducated fool. Again, with attitudes like this, I wonder why RP supporters are as vocal and emotional as they are. They feel like they are dismissed and not being heard. When I see people like Novotny getting his little group together  and talking in the hall about how to ”handle these Ron Paul People” it doesn’t help matters either. I saw this with my own eye’s and heard the discussion. It’s actions like this that make people think there is a conspiracy against them. Walking around the convention Friday evening and hearing the concern in the voices of the party doesn’t help either. Both sides have blame to share on this one. 
It’s easy to criticize those who support Ron Paul because of the way they may act, again, these are passionate people fighting for a country they believe is dying. You also need to take a look at what has been happening around the country and at our own convention. Yes, some Ron Paul supports act out, are very vocal and at times overly emotional, I get that. People who criticize this need to look at themselves. Three of the top people within the State GOP party voted inappropriately.  Three people who have been through this process more than once and who knew better. They are the State leaders of a party that is for voter id requirements and stand against voter fraud. When things like this happen it makes people wonder, if there were 3 illegal ballots turned in that we know of, how many more could there be we don’t know of? It is my understanding that Tammy wouldn’t let the counting committee count the actual number of ballots turned in. This is second hand and I believe at the time she thought there was going to be a complete re-vote but still, once the agreement was made why did they not count the number of ballots turned in? Actions like this don’t help matters and only bring in to question the legitimacy of the process. Crook county started off on the wrong foot when they decided to with hold the results of their caucus in the beginning. Of course people are going to get a little angry and frustrated when things like this happen. There have been numerous reports of questionable activity throughout this campaign. I don’t think any of this would have changed things for Ron Paul vs. Romney but it’s out there.  
I do support the Republican party, I support Ron Paul’s principles and beliefs and truly believe that someone like him is what this country needs.  I don’t believe he will win this election, I didn’t believe he could from the start, but look how much progress he has made since 2008. My goal was to get his message out and get people talking, that is happening.  I’m not going to go out and just support Romney because the majority of the party thinks I should. As far as I’m concerned there are still 4 months to go until the National Convention and a candidate is nominated. Why should I declare who I will vote for if elected a delegate when I don’t truly know what I am going to do? If it is so bad to go undeclared then why have it as an option? It’s no different than your argument about Josh Romney handing out “Mitt’s Picks”.(hey just thought of that one, mitt’s picks, why didn’t I think of that before  ) You may think it isn’t right but hey that’s the way it is and there is nothing wrong with it. Romney has a way to go for me, he has a couple good points as well as bad. All I have heard from Gingrich, Santorum and Romney during this campaign season is noise, nothing substantial. No solid plan on how they are going to turn this country around, just general statements and pandering to the base. I know where Ron Paul stands, he has been solid for 30+ years. Now that Santorum is out and Gingrich is all but done, Romney will start changing his message and hopefully he will be able to more clearly define who he is and what he plans to do.  Until then I will not change my stance.
You know I respect you Island and what you stand for, you and I are closer in our beliefs than apart. After this convention I am more excited about the process. I do plan on doing more for the party and becoming more involved when and where I can. One thing the convention taught me is that everyone can make a difference. No matter how much Ron Paul people are not liked, they did do one hell of a job organizing and making a show of strength this past weekend. Truly a grass roots effort on their part. I congratulate them and say keep it up. This party needs more people like this, young, energized and not willing to take no for an answer. 
Let’s all move on from this and enjoy our time in Tampa working together to further the Republican party and get Obama out. 
Take care my friend.
Rob Z.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with some of what you said above. I was embarrassed that people would not stand up and support the elected officials as they came to speak at our convention. In my mind there really is no excuse for that. I also agree that around the country when you see RP supporters they are sometimes loud and maybe a little rude. Keep in mind that this is the first go around for many of these people participating in an election at this level. I understand the people established within the party and those that have &#8220;put in their time&#8221;  feel they deserve certain things to come to them. But we are also dealing with a political environment in this country that is only getting worse. The majority of Americans are disgusted with the way this country is being run and see that it is the extremes of both parties that are in control with nothing getting done. Nothing ever improving. All we see is our country slowly swirling around the toilet bowl as it dies a slow death. It really doesn&#8217;t matter who is elected nothing ever changes.<br />
Why doesn’t the party embrace these new people? Take them and show them how things work? Guide them and grow them within the party? Most of these individuals are young and very new to the political process. Like it or not, they are the future of the Republican party. Instead they are just dismissed as radical nimrods without a clue. Gee, I wonder why some would rather not declare who they support? If I talk to anyone in the Republican Party there is agreement on, probably 90% of what is talked about. Once I mention Ron Paul’s name I’m tuned out and looked upon as an uneducated fool. Again, with attitudes like this, I wonder why RP supporters are as vocal and emotional as they are. They feel like they are dismissed and not being heard. When I see people like Novotny getting his little group together  and talking in the hall about how to ”handle these Ron Paul People” it doesn’t help matters either. I saw this with my own eye’s and heard the discussion. It’s actions like this that make people think there is a conspiracy against them. Walking around the convention Friday evening and hearing the concern in the voices of the party doesn’t help either. Both sides have blame to share on this one.<br />
It’s easy to criticize those who support Ron Paul because of the way they may act, again, these are passionate people fighting for a country they believe is dying. You also need to take a look at what has been happening around the country and at our own convention. Yes, some Ron Paul supports act out, are very vocal and at times overly emotional, I get that. People who criticize this need to look at themselves. Three of the top people within the State GOP party voted inappropriately.  Three people who have been through this process more than once and who knew better. They are the State leaders of a party that is for voter id requirements and stand against voter fraud. When things like this happen it makes people wonder, if there were 3 illegal ballots turned in that we know of, how many more could there be we don’t know of? It is my understanding that Tammy wouldn’t let the counting committee count the actual number of ballots turned in. This is second hand and I believe at the time she thought there was going to be a complete re-vote but still, once the agreement was made why did they not count the number of ballots turned in? Actions like this don’t help matters and only bring in to question the legitimacy of the process. Crook county started off on the wrong foot when they decided to with hold the results of their caucus in the beginning. Of course people are going to get a little angry and frustrated when things like this happen. There have been numerous reports of questionable activity throughout this campaign. I don’t think any of this would have changed things for Ron Paul vs. Romney but it’s out there.<br />
I do support the Republican party, I support Ron Paul’s principles and beliefs and truly believe that someone like him is what this country needs.  I don’t believe he will win this election, I didn’t believe he could from the start, but look how much progress he has made since 2008. My goal was to get his message out and get people talking, that is happening.  I’m not going to go out and just support Romney because the majority of the party thinks I should. As far as I’m concerned there are still 4 months to go until the National Convention and a candidate is nominated. Why should I declare who I will vote for if elected a delegate when I don’t truly know what I am going to do? If it is so bad to go undeclared then why have it as an option? It’s no different than your argument about Josh Romney handing out “Mitt’s Picks”.(hey just thought of that one, mitt’s picks, why didn’t I think of that before  ) You may think it isn’t right but hey that’s the way it is and there is nothing wrong with it. Romney has a way to go for me, he has a couple good points as well as bad. All I have heard from Gingrich, Santorum and Romney during this campaign season is noise, nothing substantial. No solid plan on how they are going to turn this country around, just general statements and pandering to the base. I know where Ron Paul stands, he has been solid for 30+ years. Now that Santorum is out and Gingrich is all but done, Romney will start changing his message and hopefully he will be able to more clearly define who he is and what he plans to do.  Until then I will not change my stance.<br />
You know I respect you Island and what you stand for, you and I are closer in our beliefs than apart. After this convention I am more excited about the process. I do plan on doing more for the party and becoming more involved when and where I can. One thing the convention taught me is that everyone can make a difference. No matter how much Ron Paul people are not liked, they did do one hell of a job organizing and making a show of strength this past weekend. Truly a grass roots effort on their part. I congratulate them and say keep it up. This party needs more people like this, young, energized and not willing to take no for an answer.<br />
Let’s all move on from this and enjoy our time in Tampa working together to further the Republican party and get Obama out.<br />
Take care my friend.<br />
Rob Z.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lies, Damned Lies, and Sweetwater County Commissioners by Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://wisdomworld.com/2011/03/05/lies-damned-lies-and-sweetwater-county-commissioners/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank: I couldn&#039;t agree more with you about the definition of private property. I addressed it the letter I wrote to the editor concerning actions by the Rock Springs URA back in December. http://wisdomworld.com/2011/12/17/the-rock-springs-ura-has-lost-its-progressive-mind/

Sadly, it is a reality in the country we live in that people think they need zoning to &quot;protect&quot; people from themselves and each other when fences would be much more effective.

I&#039;m sorry to hear that you ran into roadblocks with your attempts to contact Commissioner Kolb and the P&amp;Z Director. This surprises me, as in my experience they have both been pretty accessible. They don&#039;t agree with my take on zoning, but I find them honest and approachable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank: I couldn&#8217;t agree more with you about the definition of private property. I addressed it the letter I wrote to the editor concerning actions by the Rock Springs URA back in December. <a href="http://wisdomworld.com/2011/12/17/the-rock-springs-ura-has-lost-its-progressive-mind/"   rel="nofollow" >http://wisdomworld.com/2011/12/17/the-rock-springs-ura-has-lost-its-progressive-mind/</a></p>
<p>Sadly, it is a reality in the country we live in that people think they need zoning to &#8220;protect&#8221; people from themselves and each other when fences would be much more effective.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you ran into roadblocks with your attempts to contact Commissioner Kolb and the P&#038;Z Director. This surprises me, as in my experience they have both been pretty accessible. They don&#8217;t agree with my take on zoning, but I find them honest and approachable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lies, Damned Lies, and Sweetwater County Commissioners by Frank Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WISDOM: I contacted Erik Bingham @ planning and zoning,also commissioner Kolb in an attemp to learn of changes to Ag. zone regs. on rural property,however they failed to respond. fortunately I was able to find them online for myself. The bad news is that they are only interested in tightening their control over private property as I see it. Found a great definition of property rights online...Property rights involve not only ownership and possession, but also the right to unrestricted use,enjoyment or disposal of that which you own. without the right of use,no property right exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WISDOM: I contacted Erik Bingham @ planning and zoning,also commissioner Kolb in an attemp to learn of changes to Ag. zone regs. on rural property,however they failed to respond. fortunately I was able to find them online for myself. The bad news is that they are only interested in tightening their control over private property as I see it. Found a great definition of property rights online&#8230;Property rights involve not only ownership and possession, but also the right to unrestricted use,enjoyment or disposal of that which you own. without the right of use,no property right exists.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case Against Community Service by RAZA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it helped me alot 
gud!! keep it up !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it helped me alot<br />
gud!! keep it up !!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timing is everything it seems. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rocketminer.com/stories/aaa-after-damage-LAND-USE-changes3,17268 &quot;&gt;http://www.rocketminer.com/stories/aaa-after-damage-LAND-USE-changes3,17268
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timing is everything it seems. <a href="http://www.rocketminer.com/stories/aaa-after-damage-LAND-USE-changes3,17268 "   ></a><a href="http://www.rocketminer.com/stories/aaa-after-damage-LAND-USE-changes3,17268"   rel="nofollow" >http://www.rocketminer.com/stories/aaa-after-damage-LAND-USE-changes3,17268</a></p>
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